Comments on: Aeon Sacrifice ability is imbalanced http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/ Forging new Alliances daily Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:57:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: omsion http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2657 omsion Sat, 02 Jun 2007 07:03:22 +0000 http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2657 Isn't the the absurd power of sacrifice for upgrades a bug of some sort? As in the engies give more mass then they are supposed to towards the upgrade, thus making it such a problem? ie SCU RAS costs 6k mass. T2 engy should give 118 mass in sacrifice. Thus it should cost 51 (rounded up) T2 engies for the full upgrade. Costing 8 T2 engies clearly is a bug. Isn’t the the absurd power of sacrifice for upgrades a bug of some sort?
As in the engies give more mass then they are supposed to towards the upgrade, thus making it such a problem?

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SCU RAS costs 6k mass.
T2 engy should give 118 mass in sacrifice.
Thus it should cost 51 (rounded up) T2 engies for the full upgrade.
Costing 8 T2 engies clearly is a bug.

]]> By: werd http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2655 werd Sat, 02 Jun 2007 04:58:51 +0000 http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2655 Great news: Like four or five of the issues mentioned in the last couple blogposts here are being addressed in a hotfix patch due out in a few days: http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?p=155415#155415 Great news: Like four or five of the issues mentioned in the last couple blogposts here are being addressed in a hotfix patch due out in a few days:

http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?p=155415#155415

]]> By: Wuped http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2652 Wuped Sat, 02 Jun 2007 03:25:08 +0000 http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2652 The fact they can't be hit by torpedos is a rather big advantage.... The fact they can’t be hit by torpedos is a rather big advantage….

]]> By: Nuthead http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2648 Nuthead Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:16:12 +0000 http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2648 Yeah, only advantage from hover that Aeon Engineers have is the fact that they can't be hit by torpedoes. Yeah, only advantage from hover that Aeon Engineers have is the fact that they can’t be hit by torpedoes.

]]> By: Cyde Weys http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2646 Cyde Weys Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:08:36 +0000 http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2646 Don't all engineers have some form of hover though? They can all cross water. I don't see what makes Aeon engineers so special. Don’t all engineers have some form of hover though? They can all cross water. I don’t see what makes Aeon engineers so special.

]]> By: Wuped http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2645 Wuped Sat, 02 Jun 2007 00:44:00 +0000 http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2645 Cyde yes that is what I mean. I am sure they will release it as soon as they can. And cauldr0n aeon engineers are the least expensive hover and move the fastest... Sure they have less hp but it dosn't really matter.. Cyde yes that is what I mean. I am sure they will release it as soon as they can. And cauldr0n aeon engineers are the least expensive hover and move the fastest… Sure they have less hp but it dosn’t really matter..

]]> By: Cauldr0n http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2643 Cauldr0n Sat, 02 Jun 2007 00:21:26 +0000 http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2643 Well cause aeon engineers are the weakest but the have hover and sacrifice. It's called faction diversity i believe. Well cause aeon engineers are the weakest but the have hover and sacrifice. It’s called faction diversity i believe.

]]> By: Cyde Weys http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2641 Cyde Weys Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:18:33 +0000 http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2641 Wuped: Yes, I am aware, I guess I wasn't as clear as I could've been in my first comment. When you say "hotfix", what do you mean? Is this a way to bypass the typical patch testing cycle and just release something quickly? Wuped: Yes, I am aware, I guess I wasn’t as clear as I could’ve been in my first comment. When you say “hotfix”, what do you mean? Is this a way to bypass the typical patch testing cycle and just release something quickly?

]]> By: Wuped http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2640 Wuped Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:13:23 +0000 http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2640 Cyde you are aware this is only an imbaalnce is on acu/scu upgrades and SoS has stated this will be fixed in a hotfix. Cyde you are aware this is only an imbaalnce is on acu/scu upgrades and SoS has stated this will be fixed in a hotfix.

]]> By: Cyde Weys http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2639 Cyde Weys Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:12:01 +0000 http://www.supcomtalk.com/2007/06/01/aeon-sacrifice-ability-imbalanced/#comment-2639 Obviously, the game needs to be balanced such that sacrifice helps out upgrades by the same degree that it helps out construction, which I believe is about 80%. Right now it's at more than 100% on a mass basis ... as Grokmoo points out, when you consider the energy savings, it's upwards of 10,000%. I'm not really sure why all Aeon engineers got sacrifice, while none of the other factions did. It does seem rather unbalancing. Obviously, the game needs to be balanced such that sacrifice helps out upgrades by the same degree that it helps out construction, which I believe is about 80%. Right now it’s at more than 100% on a mass basis … as Grokmoo points out, when you consider the energy savings, it’s upwards of 10,000%. I’m not really sure why all Aeon engineers got sacrifice, while none of the other factions did. It does seem rather unbalancing.

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