I also agree with Gryphyn. It’s about time GPG releases mod tools or something for Supcom (hopefully by the time the expansion comes out :P) That way people can start modding in the things THEY want to see, kinda like in Spring and that extensible Lua stuff they got. They can make their own rules, own units, own EVERYTHING. Supcom needs to start opening up, so I can get a frickin’ TA mod for it already! ;D

The beauty of this game is that such issues as these, rather than requiring a sweeping change, can just be entered into a modification that allows the selection of whatever commander explosion criteria you choose to play with at the time. Want a D-gun? Check the box. Want no explosion or distance-lessened explosion? Check the box. Exclude Vulcans and Buzzsaws? Whoops, wrong game.

One of the big things we were told about this game from the beginning was how easy it would be to modify. If that is true, I’m surprised we haven’t seen all of these requests fulfilled already in an easy to select/deselect format. I would really like to truely customize a game to how I feel like playing at that point in time, and we don’t have that yet.

Then the only big issue left is what rules are standard for ranked play, and more than likely, they will be just what we have right now.

I think it would be a mistake to remove commander death damage. I don’t, however, think it would be a bad thing to have a nearby commander only take a portion of the full damage, say 2/3 or half. It makes sense that a commander would be somewhat resistant to the type of energy released when another commander goes up nearby. Even better though, is the idea of a slight delay between when a commander falls and when its core blows. Couple that with a damage value that drops over distance, and I think you’ve got a winner.

Why?

“For instance, this thread shouldnt contain nearly as many posts regaurding annihilation/supremecy games as it does.”

Why?

“And the posts that do include annihilation/supremecy should at least make some comment or thought on the effect it would have on ranked play, because the game should never ever be changed across the field just to benefit custom games.”

Again, why?

Ranked play is no of great consequence to me, therefore I have no need to address it. If it is of importance to you, then you certainly should expound upon it at whatever length you feel is merited, but you cannot obligate others to constrain their comments according to your rules.

anyways… yes, sweeping changes do happen in olympic sports. and other proffessional sports. Look at the changes in the NHL that happened a couple years ago also.

The majority of this issue comes from ranked plays, where people who somehow feel they were denied a win are lobbeying to have a change that affects all aspects of game play implemented to benefit their particular gameplay segment. I wonder how long SupCom would last if it was only possible to play it in a ranked game through GPGNet - I dont believe it would have the population to be a viable market.

IMHO, the only sensible way to judge what is a good and bad game change is to examine it from a game design perspective. Infurtunately I didn’t design the game so I can only make educated guesses as to what is a good change and what is not.

Still - my gut feeling is that the commander death explosion is important, but cant be so big as to force a draw easilly.

This ‘meta’ thinking is why the idea of changing the way the game assesses the winner/looser in event of simultaneous commander death may infact be a far better solution than changing the com death damage.

Still - what do I know - I am not hyper competitive by nature. I am not so adverse to loosing a game that I feel the need to try and enact sweeping changes to that games rules for my benefit. Imagine if olympic sports were subject to this sort of thing.

And, yes; the D-gun was the shiznit. I’d love to see some enterprising group of souls turn out a TA mod for SupCom!